While my husband is out obeying my order to procure chocolate ice cream, stat, I figured this would be a good time to discuss submission. HEH!
I first heard about Submission, capital S, sometime in my NDCF years. And I was all, "Um, no." This is what I heard/saw when people talked about it (whether or not they were actually SAYING these things, I don't know, but this is how I interpreted it.)
1. Women are perfectly capable of leading, yes, but the HUSBAND is the head of the family and the spiritual leader. He gets the final say on everything.
2. Women are to encourage and support their husbands in their endeavors and should really be aware of a tendency to criticize.
3. (something I saw) Married women in ministry tended to take the back seat to their husbands (also in ministry). Ie: the husbands were ALWAYS giving talks, but the women (who I knew were perfectly capable and totally awesome at giving talks) rarely did after getting married. Or sort of dropped out of ministry all together.
You guys, this was not at ALL what I intended for myself. I had plans. I had dreams. My number one goal was to move back overseas, preferably to Prague, where I would teach English and have myself a grand old time. Have you had the beer in Prague? Seen the buildings? I loved Italy, but I REALLY wanted to see the rest of Europe properly and this was the way I was going to do it.
I also happened to be embarrassingly enthralled with a particular Devastatingly Handsome Chinese Man, but as he 1) showed no sign of interest in me and 2) I wasn't particulary stoked about the Proper Christian Marriage examples I saw, this little hiccup wasn't an immediate hindrance to The Plan.
As far as I understood it, women were only supposed to submit/allow men to make the decisions/allow men to have all the leadership etc. because they were fragile little flowers with fragile little egos and if a woman came along and did everything better or righter, they'd be crushed. How were they supposed to be MEN if women were doing all the MEN things???
This completely grossed me out.
I seriously felt like I was being told to hold myself back because a man wouldn't be able to handle my independence or intelligence. "Men just NEED to be the leader," some dudes in ministry would say and I'd be all, "Well, some other woman can coddle them then. NO, THANK YOU."
I viewed it sort of like I view blog posts about modesty that decry women for tempting men. BARF. While I most certainly do approve of dressing APPROPRIATELY, it's not because all the men out there are apparently unable to control themselves.
I just kept thinking: but what if I'm right? What if he's wrong? And not in the jokey way married people talk about, where "the wife is always right" and all that. Or what if he wanted to become, oh, I don't know, some Corporate IT Guy Who Travels A Lot and I was stuck at home being a stay at home mom? COULD THERE BE ANYTHING WORSE?!?!?!
I did not want to give anything up for a GUY. I would not be standing on the sidelines while the GUY got all the glory. And I was certainly not going to pretend to be a stupid little girl because GUYS can't handle REAL WOMEN. THE END.
Now, this is just me. I know other women who have other issues with the whole submission thing. This is just MY story.
So anyway. Pissy pissy women's studies classes galore smartypantsness and real confusion and sadness over my favorite women leaders slowly backing away while their husbands took on greater roles. What was that about?
And then I started dating Phillip. He was a guy, but he was not a GUY, he was an actual person named Phillip who turned out to really like me and like my ideas and my dreams and, dare I say, encouraged them?
WHADDAYAKNOW?!
Not everyone finds a guy like this, but let me tell you: I highly recommend it.
So I start dating this guy and after a while, by which I mean after many many confusing heartbreaking arguments, I realize that I have lumped him in with GUYS. I keep expecting him to overrule me. I keep expecting him to tell me he'd never go overseas with me. I just ASSUME that he thinks he's in charge! And I am not nice about it!
But... he's so not like that. It takes me a while to figure that out. He actually doesn't have a big plan for his future. His plan is to (get this) be with ME. In whatever form that takes. He actually says, at one point, "If you want to go to Prague I'd go with you." And this is, like, a HUGE TURNING POINT FOR ME.
And it's not like I suddenly had it all figured out or anything. But I realized that he 1) loved me and 2) wanted me to be happy doing 3) the things I wanted to do and achieve and be. Maybe it would have been different if he'd had a clear plan for himself. There would have been more discussion, I'm sure. But the summer we started dating I went on a two-month tour of Europe and was miserable because he wasn't there. And that's how I knew. EVERYTHING was lacking without Phillip. I would never go anywhere without him. I would so stinking BE a SAHM to be with him!
That's not submission, though. That was the first part - realizing that I wanted him more than I wanted everything else. But then, once you HAVE him... then what?
Marriage is not about compromise. It's about both people giving all that they have. And that's what I think submission is. In the comments to that post Manda talked about the rest of that scripture:
21 and be subject to one another in the fear of Christ. 22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her; 26 that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and blameless. 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. 31 For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. 32 This mystery is great; but I am speaking with reference to Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each individual among you also love his own wife even as himself; and let the wife see to it that she respect her husband.
Dude. I have to respect you, but YOU have to DIE for me, sucka!
At this point in life/marriage I'm at peace with this submission thing. The decisions are Phillip's. That doesn't mean we don't talk about them, and I honestly can't think of a decision where he overruled me... but there ARE places where I just say, "That's all you." Mostly things about his work. And I do that because I totally support him AND I want him to be happy. If quitting his job tomorrow is what would make his world better, I support that. Even though yes, it would completely freak me out, I trust him, I support him, and I encourage him. And I do those things because I LOVE HIM. I WANT to do those things. I can still think of ways where this would feel like coddling a fragile ego, but because I love him and respect him, it's taking care of him. And it TOTALLY PAYS OFF. The loving looks I get in return for a well-timed sympathetic back rub are huge for me!
Also, marriage, for me, made me turn inwards, towards my future family. Years later I totally get why a lot of those women leaders went into the background. They were trying for babies and making their homes and pretty much doing all the things I wanted - yes, WANTED - to do when I got married. I was perfectly happy to let Phillip take the reins while I stayed home with babies, and I wanted them WAY earlier than he did. I could hardly believe myself. What happened to all my independent career lady ideas? I even lost a friend over this, you guys, because she didn't get how I had changed. How I WANTED to change.
Not everyone does. I get that. But for me, I was attached to a GUY who led without being obnoxiously leadery about it, and besides that, I completely trusted him to put me first. Even through all this business travel and school stuff, that's been my thing: I need to know that he puts me first. As long as I know that and trust it (and as long as he reminds me of it without being prompted!) I trust him to make all these decisions.
I once heard a man in ministry say that submission meant the woman lets the man make the decisions, and the man makes the decisions in her favor. Again: works for me!
Probably the biggest most painful disagreement we have is how many kids we want. If he were willing, I'd probably have a few more after this one. Plus I think adopting. I think about fostering. I feel like we have this huge house and love and room to spare and sometimes I really think that's my vocation: to take care of kids. But Phillip is totally exhausted by the IDEA and after years - YEEEEEEARS - of talking about it and crying about it and not understanding or dealing with it, I think I'm okay. I can't force him, for one thing. But I also respect him. I love him. I trust him. I will let this go.
I still, on the surface, have issues with submission. All the explanations seem lacking (see: this garbled post). I still look at all those exhortations to women about support and encouragement and being a cute, sweet, happy, pretty, peaceful, safe wife and want to roll my eyes. Then again, I am living the life and it just sort of WORKS. For us. I've seen what support and encouragement DOES. I need different things, usually, and he gives me those things and when we're both giving our best, that's when marriage is the best. It HAS to work both ways, and I'm lucky that I found someone for whom that's a total no brainer.
Okay I'm tired and my ice cream is here. Sorry this is AS USUAL incoherent. Such is blogging at 10pm.